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There were a number of people in the graveyard with the surname Red. That was interesting as I can't recall ever hearing it as a name. I can't help wondering if Ethel ever got her leg pulled about her name when she married Irving. 

Soggysetshire

There were a number of people in the graveyard with the surname Red. That was interesting as I can't recall ever hearing it as a name. I can't help wondering if Ethel ever got her leg pulled about her name when she married Irving. 

comments (24)

Grave markers are so interesting...
Bill Phillips: They are indeed Hollie.
  • Chris
  • England
  • 8 May 2014, 03:49
If you research this you might become well red
Bill Phillips: Very witty.
  • Chris
  • England
  • 8 May 2014, 04:21
Yesterday Philine threatened, on Chad's blog, to leave Shutterchance unless we're nice to you.

In view of this I want to say what a truly inspirational person you are and in future I shall dedicate all my HDR pictures to your name
Bill Phillips: I would like to say I am honoured. But I was taught to be honest
  • Astrid
  • Netherlands
  • 8 May 2014, 05:02
I think Chris is in trouble. I don't want to see an angry Philine......
....what is in a name....grin...
Bill Phillips: I don't want Philine to be upset. The merry insults that Chris and Chad and Trimbo hurl are all in good fun. They are my very good friends. Even Mick shaw is!!
Astrid wrote " what's in s name " this got me thinking the same too, seems to be a well travelled name

http://www.houseofnames.com/red-family-crest
Bill Phillips: Thanks Scotia. Philine also found a names site and I now have learnt all about the name, Fascinating isn't it?
  • gutteridge
  • Where latitude and attitude meet
  • 8 May 2014, 06:22
Well it make sense when one considers the saying ' better to be red than dead' Bill. Apologies to comrade T.
Bill Phillips: I will combine my reply to point out that both are correct depending on which side of the political divide you were during the cold war. To some the total destruction by a nuclear war was preferable to being communist.....hard to see the plus points of that argument, perhaps you had to be American
  • gutteridge
  • Where latitude and attitude meet
  • 8 May 2014, 06:23
I just noticed that I got that the wrong way round.

Better to be dead than read.

Oh well, sorry comrade T.
Bill Phillips: see above
  • Alan
  • United Kingdom
  • 8 May 2014, 06:59
Haha!! Ethelred the Unready! I can't recall ever seeing the surname "Red" before; I was thinking it was an old name but I see they are recent deaths.
Bill Phillips: It is an old name apparently
  • Philine
  • Germany
  • 8 May 2014, 07:05
In German the name 'Roth' is rather common, originally I think a Jewish name. Red can be a first name, too, and often first names are 'surnames. I love the female name 'Ethel'. Both persons died in the same year, I suppose Ethel didn't want to survive her husband for a longer time. True love!
Fine, Bill, that you are so interested in studying headstones, this is also my interest.
Bill Phillips: My mother was christened Ethel although she was always known as Peggy. Ange and I have always liked looking at headstones.
  • Philine
  • Germany
  • 8 May 2014, 07:42
an interesting link to the German name 'Roth' = Red: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roth_%28surname%29
Bill Phillips: Interesting indeed Philine
  • Philine
  • Germany
  • 8 May 2014, 07:45
This is a better explanation:
"This is a surname of some controversy. Recorded in several spellings including Reid, generally held to be Scottish, Read, Reade, Reed, Red and Redd, it has at least three possible origins. Firstly, the surname may derive from the Olde English pre 7th century word "read" meaning red, and as such was probably nationalistic for an Anglo-Saxon, as these people were often red haired or had a ruddy complexion. Early examples from this source may include William Red in the Pipe Rolls of the county of Gloucestershire in 1176, and Gilbert le Rede of Coul, Scotland in 1296. The second possibility is that the name is locational from various places such as Read in the county of Lancashire, from the Olde English word "roegheafod", meaning the land occupied by deer, or Rede in Suffolk, deriving from the word "hreod", meaning reeds as grown in a river; or the village of Reed in Hertfordshire, from the word "ryht", meaning brushwood. Ralph de Rede is recorded in the Curia Regis rolls of Hertfordshire in the year 1203. The final suggestion is that the name is topographical from the Olde English "ried" and describes somebody who lived in a clearing. Roger de la Rede is noted in the Pipe Rolls of Devonshire in the year 1208. Joseph Reid (1843 - 1917), born in Ayrshire, was the inventor of the Reid oil burner, which did so much to advance the oil industry in the United States. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Leofwine se Reade. This was dated 1016 in the records known as the "Olde English Bynames for the county of Kent", during the reign of King Canute, 1016 - 1035. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling."

Read more: http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Red#ixzz316Vh6BFd
Bill Phillips: That surname database looks interesting I'm going to look up Phillips!

http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Phillips
  • blackdog
  • United Kingdom
  • 8 May 2014, 09:58
I see the Unready joke has already been made - I need to get up earlier.
Bill Phillips: It was the obvious quip Mike so I wouldn't feel too bad about it grin
That made me chuckle, Bill. Her parents must have had a sense of humour.
Bill Phillips: It isn't clear if she was his wife or sister though Pauline
I don't know anyone with that name either but the island has a magazine called Red.
Bill Phillips: Might that be connected to the soil colour Mary? smile
quite a spooky one Bill!
Bill Phillips: It is a bit minimalist Ronky
  • Penny
  • on my way to breakfast
  • 8 May 2014, 15:20
Was she unready, one wonders.....?
Bill Phillips: What makes you say that Penny? grin
The only time I've heard anything like Red being used at all as a name was in Gone With The Wind an then it was Rhett.
Bill Phillips: and Rhett was his christian name
Coming reddy or not she said to her husband..
Bill Phillips: It's the way you tell 'em Mick
  • Philine
  • Germany
  • 8 May 2014, 17:41
Ethel Read was his wife, for 55 years married as I read!
Bill Phillips: Where did you find that out Philine?
Red or Rouge in French Bill. The first time I hear about this surname!
Bill Phillips: It was new to me Richard biut apparently is quite common in Somerset
  • Anne
  • United Kingdom
  • 8 May 2014, 19:42
What a wonderful capture of such a great juxtaposition of names - my dad really enjoyed this kind of thing smile
Bill Phillips: I love word things and names like this are just one. I love when someone's name fits their job. Like a dentist locally called Mr Blood!
Perhaps Ethel should have kept her maiden name on marriage smile This might be of interest: http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Red

Another site says that although Green and Brown are known as common 'colour surnames', Red is unknown - they don't know much, do they smile
Bill Phillips: There is something rather reassuring about an internet site that is just plain wrong!
And this one: http://forebears.co.uk/surnames/red
which says that the name is prevalent in Somerset.
Bill Phillips: They are funny blighters in the West country.
  • Ray
  • Thailand
  • 16 May 2014, 22:16
Plenty of water there for the flowers, Bill...red roses would be suitable...
Bill Phillips: Why would that be?

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