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photoblog image When is an abstract.....

When is an abstract.....

not an abstract?

 

When it is real perhaps?


When is an abstract.....

not an abstract?

 

When it is real perhaps?


comments (20)

  • Ray
  • Thailand
  • 24 Aug 2011, 02:16
...or, perhaps, when the beholder is in need of a fresh spectacles prescription?
Bill Phillips: I can't seem to read your comment Ray
A tunnel of soft curtain?! I love the design/illusion that the fabric creates! I love it!
Bill Phillips: Actually that is about right Elizabeth
  • Ginnie
  • Netherlands
  • 24 Aug 2011, 06:24
Reality is one of the greatest abstracts of the mind, Bill, right? (I just made that up.)
Bill Phillips: I need to lie down
A very interesting one Bill.
Bill Phillips: Thanks Frances. It was some sort of art thing at Croome Court. I have no idea what it was all supposed to be
  • Alan
  • United Kingdom
  • 24 Aug 2011, 07:53
Some sort of fabric, maybe? Well taken.
Bill Phillips: It is indeed a fabric
  • Chris
  • England
  • 24 Aug 2011, 09:18
When you've abstracted all the recognisable shapes out of it perhaps??

I remember that song: I wish I didn't really!
Bill Phillips: The song was rubbish as was the Film as I recall
It is wonderful. Reminds me of inside the body strangely.
Bill Phillips: I can see what you mean Mary
  • Chad Doveton
  • Where latitude and longitude meet.
  • 24 Aug 2011, 10:29
I always maintain that a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush Bill, but returning to your fine photograph today, and your blast from the past youtube thingy, that is a good question.
Bill Phillips: It is a long lane that has no turning
  • Louis
  • South Africa
  • 24 Aug 2011, 10:33
The inside of the Tiff's intestines after a bacon buttie worked its way through?

I get a craving for tripe now smile

/ˈabˌstrakt/

Noun: A summary or statement of the contents of a book, article, or formal speech.
Adjective: Existing in thought or as an idea but not having a physical or concrete existence.
Bill Phillips: noun) - Abstract art can be a painting or sculpture (including assemblage) that does not depict a person, place or thing in the natural world - even in an extremely distorted or exaggerated way. Therefore, the subject of the work is based on what you see: color, shapes, brushstrokes, size, scale and, in some cases, the process (see action painting). Abstract art began in 1911 with such works as Picture with a Circle (1911) by the Russian artist Wassily Kandinsky (1866-1944).

Or it could be the inside of Tiff's intestines

I don't like tripe but my mother used to love it
Almost like windblown sand ripples.
Bill Phillips: Yes I see what you mean John
  • vintage
  • Thailand
  • 24 Aug 2011, 11:05
Nice patten
Bill Phillips: It is rather
  • blackdog
  • United Kingdom
  • 24 Aug 2011, 11:15
When its a twiddle in the windmills of your mind ;o)
Bill Phillips: Ah but this is not a twiddle Mike
no idea, what defines an abstract>
Bill Phillips: noun) - Abstract art can be a painting or sculpture (including assemblage) that does not depict a person, place or thing in the natural world - even in an extremely distorted or exaggerated way. Therefore, the subject of the work is based on what you see: color, shapes, brushstrokes, size, scale and, in some cases, the process (see action painting). Abstract art began in 1911 with such works as Picture with a Circle (1911) by the Russian artist Wassily Kandinsky (1866-1944).

Well that is a dictionary definition!
  • anniedog
  • Great Britain
  • 24 Aug 2011, 14:32
Looks like woodgrain to me. I'm not even going to click on the link to that execrable song - not everything that came out of the sixties was good!
Bill Phillips: It is fabric. The song is a dreadful load of rubbish and I seem to recall that the film it went with was not up to much either... The Thomas Crown Affair which starred Steve McQueen I think
  • Linda
  • United Kingdom
  • 24 Aug 2011, 15:23
I was going to say it looks like wood grain style paper, but I read its fabric..... I shall be humming this song all afternoon now........tut! grin
Bill Phillips: Now Linda repeat after me
I will not hum this rubbish
I will not hum this rubbish
Well done Bill for making a great picture out of this, it certainly has been a talking point.
Bill Phillips: A bit of fun reading the comments
My immediate thought was thin woodgrain veneer, but you say its fabric. So now it looks like grosgrain fabric,
Bill Phillips: It was sort of like net curtain material but more heavy duty. I have no idea what grosgrain fabric is smile
  • Louis
  • South Africa
  • 24 Aug 2011, 18:49
Existing in thought and idea - doesn't exclude the possibility that you can use a brush, camera or what, to create a shareable image of that idea. You can now show me your thought or idea.

As you will know, the analytic psychologist will use pen and paper to coax a subject to share his/her thinking.
Very much related is the study of abstract reasoning. Chad will tell you it has to do with lateral thinking. To let your thoughts go where very few, if any, has gone before. For instance, a programmer must visualise the business process in the given programming language. Abstract reasoning.

Going to art. In general it is accepted that abstract art is different/opposite of realistic art. In realism everyone should agree what is photographed, painted. etc.

Graphic art is an art form that can include abstract ideas and requires some abstract reasoning. People try to convince me that graphics are 2-dimensional - the I think Pablo was a graphic artist - oops.

So back to your question - when is an abstract, not an abstract. My answer would be - when it is realistic and commonly recognised. My reasoning as above.
Bill Phillips: Jason (Kathryn's partner0 has a degree in Psychology but i only got as far as GCSE. However,I can go along with your reasoning but not entirely with your conclusion as what qualifies as commonly recognised?
  • Louis
  • South Africa
  • 24 Aug 2011, 21:50
Commonly recognised, would mean applying the 'average person' test.
I paint a horse and the average person will recognise it as a realistic rendering of a horse.
The common recognition is that the image is realistic.
Maybe I should change the sentence in the previous comment to read: My answer would be - when it is realistic and commonly recognised as such.
Bill Phillips: Yes that sounds good. What they used to refer to as the "man on the Clapham Omnibus"
Makes a great pic Bill smile
Bill Phillips: Thank you smile

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